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title: "PiR – E181: Collecting The Insurance User Experience with Meredith Kokas & Mike Crowe of Cleasurance - InsNerds.com"
description: Recorded onsite at Cleasurance's No. Andover, MA home office (Nick is sitting on a bean bag chair...pretty insurtechy), this episode is about capturing user experiences from the interaction of buyers, policyholders, claimants and other stakeholders to the insurance experience. Mike Crowe and Meredith Kokas describe why Cleasurance started, what they do, how they do it
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# PiR – E181: Collecting The Insurance User Experience with Meredith Kokas & Mike Crowe of Cleasurance

[![Picture of Nicholas Lamparelli](https://insnerds.com/hubfs/Nick%20Lamparelli(Headshot%20GS).jpg) Nicholas Lamparelli ](https://insnerds.com/insights/author/nicholas-lamparelli) :  Feb 16, 2020 12:00:00 AM

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Recorded onsite at Cleasurance’s No. Andover, MA home office (Nick is sitting on a bean bag chair…pretty insurtechy), this episode is about capturing user experiences from the interaction of buyers, policyholders, claimants and other stakeholders to the insurance experience. Mike Crowe and Meredith Kokas describe why Cleasurance started, what they do, how they do it and why it creates a rich and robust data set for stakeholders in insurance to understand whether we are satisfying our potential and actual customers.

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**CONNECT WITH:  
**Mike Crowe – [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkc211/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/mkc211/)  
 Meredith Kokas – [https://www.linkedin.com/in/meredithkokos/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/meredithkokos/)  
 Cleasurance Home Page – [https://clearsurance.com/](https://clearsurance.com/)

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**BOOKS RECOMMENDED BY MEREDITH & MIKE:  
**Mastering the Rockefeller Habits by Verne Harnish – [https://amzn.to/37xhBpQ](https://amzn.to/37xhBpQ)  
 Good to Great by Jim Collins – [https://amzn.to/2vCIqvD](https://amzn.to/2vCIqvD)  
 The Undoing Project by Michael Lewis – [https://amzn.to/2vGbWQR](https://amzn.to/2vGbWQR)  
 Scaling Up by Verne Harnish – [https://amzn.to/2SRf4kP](https://amzn.to/2SRf4kP)  
 The Originals by Adam Grant – [https://amzn.to/3bLAHMq](https://amzn.to/3bLAHMq)  
 Books on Testing & Optimization – [https://amzn.to/3bJP4Av](https://amzn.to/3bJP4Av)

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