Lemonade Peacocking On Firearms

“There’s a brand new talk, but it’s not very clear
That people from good homes, are talking this year
It’s loud and tasteless and I’ve heard it before
You shout it while you’re dancing on the whole dance floor
Oh bop, fashion
Listen to me – don’t listen to me
Talk to me – don’t talk to me
Dance with me – don’t dance with me, no” Squeeze Squeeze
Fashion by David Bowie

You’ve got to give it to Lemonade; they are not afraid to stick their necks out, and be controversial. It is even more compelling in that the drama they manufacture is in the most conservative of industries. They were back at it today, except they added something different this time. . . They got political.

Early this morning, Lemonade began, via several outlets, broadcasting their stance on guns. Not just their corporate stance, but also how their policies will respond to guns. In their Transparency Blog, CEO Daniel Schreiber wrote:

‘Guns’ is a polarizing topic, which is why most companies avoid it at all costs. But Lemonade was founded to make insurance into a social good. That requires being upfront about what we think ‘good’ is, and is not. When it comes to the Second Amendment, therefore, we can’t take the Fifth. After the awful massacre in Las Vegas, we’re not sure anyone should.

He proceeds to rattle off how Lemonade, through its insurance policies, will look to elicit social change to lower gun violence (or separating the good from the bad socially):

  • they will limit gun property coverage to $2,500
  • no coverage for “assault weapons” (a term that has no consistent definition-many gun owners prefer military-grade weapon, but the agreed-upon definition varies by jurisdiction)
  • if policyholders do not store and secure their guns, then they will not be covered.

They essentially kicked a hornet’s nest. I saw rabid discussions on Twitter, Facebook, and the normally polite LinkedIn. Lots of interesting discussions on what they are doing and what this might do to both their business and the social cause of reducing firearm violence.

I was in-flight as I read the article, which allowed me the time to reread the original blog article and digest many of the comments on social media. After some time to think this through, this article, in my opinion is more of the Lemonade hype that we have seen in the past. They are building a business model of innovation and disruption, seeking drama to generate hype and marketing. Insurance is not a beloved industry and they are creating the message that the industry as it exists is so very bad, and they are so very good, and thus if you despise the industry, you will see Lemonade as the modern day savior. The message is embedded in every piece of marketing they have, including presentations at conferences. From a branding perspective, I really have yet to see them go off-point. These guys are good marketers. But their message still stinks. It is highly disingenuous. It all started a year ago with the “they don’t pay claims but we do” message, and now we have come to today, where Lemonade gets to take a victory lap by being against a social problem, without actually doing anything about it.

Let’s start with paragraph three: “But while we respect gun ownership, we’re not into gun worship. This is why our policies limit the amount we will pay out for the damage or theft of firearms to an entirely adequate $2,500”. Does this or does this not make it sound like they are against gun violence, so they purposely limit the amount of coverage? They did that?

Come on now! It fell into their laps. Right on page 4 of the ISO HO3 policy:

They are taking credit for something they inherited from the policy form they chose. Taking credit for this as some form of social signal of your intentions is disingenuous  at best, and at worst, it chips away at your credibility of being the shining star in a “crummy” industry.  Any underwriter will tell you that theft of firearms is limited because firearms are highly susceptible to theft.  This is in the policy to limit the loss incurred.  Since the limited coverage amount is only applicable when the loss is due to theft, just like the rest of the industry, Lemonade should not claim that they are attempting to encourage property owners to own fewer guns!

After this, things get muddled. If you want more coverage than $2,500, Mr. Schreiber essentially tells those gun owners to take a hike: “If you own more than $2,500-worth of firearms, we recommend trying one of our competitors”  because they want to write policies “for the vigilant gun owner, not the vigilante gun owner“. The problem with this statement is that it is completely ignorant of what the dollar value of guns are. As was pointed out on social media and internal conversations within InsNerds.com, guns are really expensive. A simple hunting or clay shooting rifle can exceed $2,500. So not only is Mr. Schreiber telling gun owners to take their business elsewhere, he basically tells them to not let the door hit them on their way out. Ouch!

Next, as a policyholder of Lemonade you have no coverage for assault weapons. That’s great, except that assault weapons are not a true “class” of weapons.  It is not like a “rifle” or a “pistol.”  The definition of an “assault weapon” varies by jurisdiction.  Many gun owners and politicians have moved to the use of military grade weapons, but even this is blurry.  To understand fully what Lemonade was trying to do here, we would need a list of weapons that are considered not covered.  They will need to explicitly exclude certain types of firearms for this to hold up as an exclusion.

Finally, as an insurance professional, I think we can all agree that a larger concern for any gun owner ought to be how his or her liability coverage responds to an incident with a firearm.  Mr. Schreiber does not address liability at all.  If, in the event of a break-in, I, as a gun-owner have my pistol stolen, that is an easy fix, Lemonade can pay me the value of the firearm.  But, if I’m home, and I defend my property using my firearm in self defense, how does Lemonade respond?  The fact that this topic was left out of the blog post completely is telling.

So, if I am right and this is just a marketing show, why are they doing this and does any of this matter?

My guess is Lemonade is showing off its feathers like a peacock looking to attract its target audience. It’s a fashion show really. They have a target market, and they are aggressively going after it. It’s an incredibly risky strategy though. They are headed into Texas currently, and they just gave a big middle-finger to a state with a massive gun-owning population. I don’t think they care one bit about losing those potential customers. It seems as though they are betting the farm with a strategy of targeting, urban residents who are highly socially conscious and digitally savvy. That’s a big market potentially, and if they get superior market share, it could pay off. If it does, perhaps the end will justify the means. If I am right, then perhaps we will see the full monty of personal lines dedicated to this market segment.

I can’t help but finish this post with why I am writing this. This action by Lemonade literally does nothing to affect the cause they they seem so passionately to be for. As I mentioned above, from the insurance perspective, Lemonade has not moved the yardstick an inch. What they have done is just drawn a line in the sand and peacock that they are doing something positive, which they are not. It is so very phony. It makes me question their integrity. They have built a business model highlighting the problems of the insurance industry and offered themselves as the angelic alternative. But when you are this blatantly disingenuous, it’s hard to take any of your words seriously. If you want to be socially conscious via insurance there are so many positive ways to do that. Here’s a softball to Lemonade, you are moving into Texas, why don’t you figure out a way to get the thousands of homeowners and renters with no flood insurance in Harris County some coverage. It would be very hard work and simple marketing messages wont do the trick, but darn it, that would be an appropriate socially conscious avenue for Lemonade instead of this fluff.

I guess when you lie with dogs, sometimes you catch fleas.

About Nick Lamparelli

Nick Lamparelli is a 20+ year veteran of the insurance wars. He has a unique vantage point on the insurance industry. From selling home & auto insurance, helping companies with commercial insurance, to being an underwriter with an excess & surplus lines wholesaler to catastrophe modeling Nick has wide experience in the industry. Over past 10 years, Nick has been focused on the insurance analytics of natural catastrophes and big data. Nick serves as our Chief Evangelist.

9 thoughts on “Lemonade Peacocking On Firearms”

  1. Well said – They have done some interesting things from a technology perspective. But their forte is marketing. I think their slogan should be “We are a marketing firm that does technology!!”

  2. Does Lemonade even make flood insurance available? Given how many consumers need the coverage, if not, do they expect consumers to split their accounts among two or more agents/insurers? Where’s the enhanced “customer experience” and efficiency they tout for that? Most of their hype and hyperbole seems to focus on what’s best for Lemonade, not the consumer.

    • Bill

      Exactly right. If they wanted to fix insurance, there are many, many opportunities to do that. Instead it’s this empty marketing taking advantage of the naïveté of their customers when it comes to insurance. “Guns bad..insurance bad” like a caveman

  3. Excellent article Nick. Thank you.

    Lemonade’s gun post is everything you describe. Phony. Disingenuous. It prey’s on customers insurance illiteracy rather than educating and informing.

    Ironic that this is a company that prides itself on transparency. Whose unique proposition is charity. Giving to human good.

    Yet their post is a veiled marketing ploy that is nothing but misleading and duplicitous.

    What does it say about a company that attempts to manipulate others in this way following such a tragedy?

  4. Nick,

    Great post. I too felt that they were taking advantage of a dire situation to pound their chests undeservingly.

    Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on who is saying), and as you mention, they are brilliant marketers, and this message will reach out to some. This ends up being worse for our industry as it misleads people.

    Your comment ‘But, if I’m home, and I defend my property using my firearm in self defense, how does Lemonade respond? The fact that this topic was left out of the blog post completely is telling,’ reminded me of an article I read a few weeks ago…http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/19/nra-shooting-insurance/.
    You are right, it would be interesting to see how they respond to that…


  5. Gotta say, had no idea what lemonade was but I just moved and the post-office address forwarding site mentioned them.
    I was about to get it but decided to do a little research. Glad I did. I own multiple handguns, 1 AR and a 12Ga. Seems kind of stupid that they don’t even mention this on their site as you’re going through the sign up.
    I’m new to insurance and didn’t realize there was such a big deal about the type of items.
    Anyway, by not mentioning their “Anti-Firearms” stance in their sign up page, it really sounds like just another way to screw the customer at payment time…
    Like they mention dogs, but not their firearm policy?
    Also, if they are trying to encourage people to downsize their collection, where does the gun go?
    You can get about 35% market price going to a LGS and selling it where a background check will happen when purchased (had an LGS offer me $400 for a pristine Styer Aug Nato with a 3x scope, lol got $2k straight elsewhere…)
    Or go to armslist and do your best to sell to a law abiding citizen for a proper price and no background check.
    Sounds like they’re encouraging people to sell their guns and the best way to legally sell them is 3rd party. Here in OH, that does not require a BC. Thus, their policy encourages selling firearms without a BC.


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