--- title: "Profiles in Risk – Episode 31: Insurance NCIS – Kevin Grudzien (Forensic Accountant) - InsNerds.com" description: "SUBSCRIBE AT: Buzzsprout RSS: https://goo.gl/5K4X3Q Google Play: https://goo.gl/WMAvW4 iTunes: https://goo.gl/7SqwvP Overcast: https://goo.gl/8b4cbD Stitcher: https://goo.gl/DmE7Mi YouTube: https://goo.gl/1Turar In this episode of Profile in Risk, I speak with Kevin Grudzien (pronounced Groo-Jean, as in blue jean). Kevin is a forensic accountant who specializes in reconstructing business interruption losses. Business interruption claims are some of the most difficult to" image: https://insnerds.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png --- 2 min read # Profiles in Risk – Episode 31: Insurance NCIS – Kevin Grudzien (Forensic Accountant) [![Picture of Nicholas Lamparelli](https://insnerds.com/hubfs/Nick%20Lamparelli(Headshot%20GS).jpg) Nicholas Lamparelli ](https://insnerds.com/insights/author/nicholas-lamparelli) : Sep 10, 2017 12:00:00 AM [Podcast](https://insnerds.com/insights/tag/podcast) ![Profiles in Risk – Episode 31: Insurance NCIS – Kevin Grudzien (Forensic Accountant)](https://insnerds.com/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png) Audio Player [http://www.buzzsprout.com/87086/563176-profiles-in-risk-episode-31-insurance-ncis-kevin-grudzien-forensic-accountant.mp3](http://www.buzzsprout.com/87086/563176-profiles-in-risk-episode-31-insurance-ncis-kevin-grudzien-forensic-accountant.mp3) 00:00 00:00 00:00 Use Up/Down Arrow keys to increase or decrease volume. **SUBSCRIBE AT: [Buzzsprout RSS: https://goo.gl/5K4X3Q](https://goo.gl/5K4X3Q) [Google Play: https://goo.gl/WMAvW4](https://goo.gl/5K4X3Q) ****[iTunes: https://goo.gl/7SqwvP Overcast: https://goo.gl/8b4cbD Stitcher: https://goo.gl/DmE7Mi](https://goo.gl/DmE7Mi)** **[YouTube: https://goo.gl/1Turar](https://goo.gl/1Turar)** In this episode of Profile in Risk, I speak with Kevin Grudzien (pronounced Groo-Jean, as in blue jean). Kevin is a forensic accountant who specializes in reconstructing business interruption losses. Business interruption claims are some of the most difficult to adjust in insurance. Kevin and I discuss why that is, and what companies can do to make sure they have the proper BI coverage and to avoid painful BI claims. We also jump into Contingent Business Interruption, careers in forensic accounting and the opportunities that exist for insurtech to streamline this one adjusting niche.**** ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png?width=300&height=225&name=GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png?width=300&height=225&name=GoToMeeting-002-1-300x225.png) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-003-300x225.png?width=300&height=225&name=GoToMeeting-003-300x225.png) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-003-300x225.png?width=300&height=225&name=GoToMeeting-003-300x225.png) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-004-2-300x223.png?width=300&height=223&name=GoToMeeting-004-2-300x223.png) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-005-300x223.png?width=300&height=223&name=GoToMeeting-005-300x223.png) CONTACT KEVIN: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-grudzien-4712806/](https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-grudzien-4712806/) RANK THE RISK: [RIMS Survey ](https://www.rims.org/RiskKnowledge/RISKKnowledgeDocs/2017-RIMS-Business-Interruption-Survey_4252017_114514.pdf) ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/GoToMeeting-000-1-300x165.png?width=431&height=237&name=GoToMeeting-000-1-300x165.png)     ![](https://insnerds.com/hs-fs/hubfs/Imported_Blog_Media/Lamparelli-100x100-Jan-03-2025-02-36-07-3231-AM.jpg?width=100&height=100&name=Lamparelli-100x100-Jan-03-2025-02-36-07-3231-AM.jpg) ### About Nicholas Lamparelli Nick Lamparelli is a 20+ year veteran of the insurance wars. He has a unique vantage point on the insurance industry. From selling home & auto insurance, helping companies with commercial insurance, to being an underwriter with an excess & surplus lines wholesaler to catastrophe modeling Nick has wide experience in the industry. Over past 10 years, Nick has been focused on the insurance analytics of natural catastrophes and big data. 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From selling home & auto insurance, helping companies with commercial insurance, to being an underwriter with an excess & surplus lines wholesaler to catastrophe modeling Nick has wide experience in the industry. Over past 10 years, Nick has been focused on the insurance analytics of natural catastrophes and big data. 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